A bright new path for Blue Skooma RP

56 posts · started by @rainha on Oct 18, 2014 · 1330 views · in Closed Threads

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:40 AM #1

The city of S'ren-ja has a lot of residents, and their lives are tempered by the hardships of being so close to cirondiil and the beautiful sandy landscape, they're building a diverse Dominion independant self sustaining community.
The fields are ready to receive the crops, the buildings were repaired, some soldiers have been camping outside town, the vampires started to organize themselves and the wolfs are finding each other.

So, we've had some issues and a few people left.Inlight of that We'd like to move the guild to another direction IC.
We propose the guild IC to be taken into a more descentralized path. Instead of being ruled by a khajiiti clan, we'd want to see a council, formed by the head of the main communities of S'ren-ja. We'd like to hear your ideas about it, and if you have other paths, please present them. If you want.
Here is our idea of communities to form or that might already exist.

GUARDS
FARMERS
SOLDIERS
VAMPIRES**
WEREWOLFS**
EXPLORERS
MAGES/HEALERS
MERCHANTS
MERCENARIES/SELL-SWORDS

** ** Supernatural creatures will have their leaders in the council, but to outsiders, they'd present themselves as having other jobs. Like head of the jannitors, or something else, but it has to be a job that most common folk wouldn't wanna participate, or maybe a job really hard to get.

Edited Oct 29, 2014 at 03:49 AM by 0

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:48 AM #2

I have a question — what is the difference between the Soldiers and Guards?

Also, could we possibly add a Sellsword/Mercenary group, or some form of assassin group?

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:53 AM #3

The soldiers would be the dominion people, going to war, or coming from it. S'ren-ja is a town in the way to cirondiil, so maybe they made an outpost just outside town?

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 06:06 AM #4

Ok, cool. c:

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 06:22 AM #5

lol forgot to add the mercenaries to the list, corrected it now, awesome Elsy

BhidulOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 12:38 PM #6

Bhidul is kinda a cross between soldier and guard... Would this work out?

MailnaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 01:48 PM #7

I wouldn't want to see the complete erasure of the Clan. Maybe it could be like a constitutional monarchy, with the Clanmother being there and the town guard being under her as a technicality, but with the real power resting in, er, unofficial officials whom the town accepts as knowing what is going on.

heroofnoneOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 03:01 PM #8

That is true, we discussed the clan mother and town leaders structure still being there, but given soldiers and merchants coming in and out of town, it would turn to a council between these groups. We still need to shake it out, but something like the clan mother, the head soldier, and Mages or merchants leaders on top (an odd number to break vote ties), and then some of the others like the captain of the guard, mercenaries, farmers, etc. being representative council. We don't want too many on top, but there should be clear leaders for the community and support for that. This also gives wider opportunity for non-Khajiit to raise to important roles in the community.

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 04:06 PM #9

I have no preference between having the clan and not having the clan. As a Bosmer, I never felt like the clan effected me in any way or did I feel any attachment to its structure. I will say though, Arisel technically owns the Sugar Claw Clan as it's her own intellectual property, so as we said in the meeting yesterday, we'd have to come up with an entirely new clan.

goldenboywvaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 04:37 PM #10

I am in favor of the new story line. I am working on a character who would make a great soldier (or maybe a sell-sword) who could be available to all Guild members for:

Watching your back
Questing companion, both regular and Vet
Help with bosses
Grinding

I'm thinking that on role playing nights my players would be available to help members or a member could call upon my player anytime I'm online and I will quite what I am doing and come straight to you.

More on this later.

Goldenboywva

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 04:46 PM #11

I don't know about it being intelectual property, but I would like to avoid more problems, And i actually did not like the ic structure before, i felt it didnt give spaçe to characters that are not khajiit, And that was kinda sad, also it seemed to me that you had to be part of a specific clique to be accepted, which isnt exactly ideal if we gonna have new members And all.

Although having another clan, I think it iş a good idea, maybe, if we do it right And not centralize the ic Spotlight on said clan

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:08 PM #12

Completely agree. That way the Khajiit still have a clan to be in, but people who are not Khajiit don't feel ostracized from the clan.

ElridgeOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:11 PM #13

Elsynia wrote
I have no preference between having the clan and not having the clan. As a Bosmer, I never felt like the clan effected me in any way or did I feel any attachment to its structure. I will say though, Arisel technically owns the Sugar Claw Clan as it's her own intellectual property, so as we said in the meeting yesterday, we'd have to come up with an entirely new clan.

they said that a group of sugar claw splintered off to my understanding, not the full clan. I mean IF they did drag the full Sugar Claw clan anyways, wouldn't that be unfair to those that stayed in BSR to automatically be expected to uproot? Personally I like the idea of new factions coming up and taking charge of the city, but wouldn't want to get rid of Sugar Claw completely. I mean even if the members that left were the ones that came up with it, they did so as officers of Blue Skooma, to incorporate it into the GUILD story. I just think it would be unfair to those left behind, to tell them they aren't members of the clan anymore, if they want to choose new leadership they should be able to do so.

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@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:16 PM #14

Good point there!
But what about problems that using someone else's intelectual property may cause? Is it really a thing? Should we worry about it?

Also, just had this thought: What if the reminding members of the scc were to decide to change the ic name? Icly i mean. That would be cool too.

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:22 PM #15

Elridge has a point, but I really don't feel comfortable taking someone's ideas. None of us came up with the clan. Arisel did. It would wrong of us to use it without her consent.

I like Gata's idea of the remaining clan gathering and changing the name IC since we could say, IC, that the majority of the SCC left. The other guild's IC story is that Arisel, being the spiritual leader as the CM, feared for their safety with the ruby and it possibly being cursed. So she guided those that wanted to leave out of Sren'ja. We could possibly use that as cannon. I can ask OOC Arisel if anyone wants her consent to use that.

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ElridgeOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:26 PM #16

I'm not too sure, in my opinion, if anything the clan was formed as intellectual property to the guild, not any one person. One person may have come up with the idea, but as I said, they did so as an officer of Blue Skooma, and by bringing their idea into a main part of the guild story/guild culture, I don't think anyone should have an issue with it.

Say I make "Wullfrend Pack" a pack of werewolves, and I use it for my personal RP story, that is mine. However I decide to bring it into the guild story, and make it a key part of the guild story, it's no longer JUST mine... it's everyone's. I can't/won't just decide one day that I'm leaving and you guys can't use my idea anymore, even though it's been incorporated into many of your stories.

edit: I'm not saying continue on using the ruby story or anything, but just that if there are remaining SCC members, if they so choose I don't think we should take their right of continuing a different chapter of the clan.

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@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:30 PM #17

I wouldn't feel confortable using any of their ideas, even if they gave permission. Specially the Ruby and all of those storylines that no one knows the details and all.
But if we really wanna do it, then we should get their written permission, from arisel And phoenix, as the Ruby was entirelly phoenix idea, it did not involve anyone else in the creating process, so we'd really need to get a written one if we gonna use it. And i honestly think we should avoid that the best we can.

Also, we are not the same guild as them, só wouldn't it be confusing to have the same institution in two completely different guilds?

These are just thoughts

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ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:33 PM #18

Ehh. I disagree. I know if I came up with something and chose to leave, especially with the way things ended, I'd want to take all of my ideas away so that I can use them later. I wouldn't mind consenting to leaving a few, but if want most of my ideas to come with me.

Also their new guild is literally called the Sugar Claw Clan (and yes I am a part of it), which makes me really not want to keep that name so we don't step on them at all.

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:34 PM #19

I agree that the members should chose.

ElsyOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:37 PM #20

I'm cool with the members choosing.

ElridgeOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 05:39 PM #21

I get what you mean, I'm a member on the website, I think? I guess it really doesn't matter unless people actually want to continue using the name anyways.

Personally I don't care, I was admitted into the clan by accidentally being at the right place at the wrong time hahaha, I asked a couple questions, was handed gear and told to go sit down with the others xD

I just didn't want to take it away from any of the members who have been in the clan and possibly cared about it for longer then I. Sounds a little messed up to me to say "this is mine you can't have it anymore"(Im not saying anyone actually did that, just if it came to that) lol

Mo'jahi Ice-EyeOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 07:18 PM #22

Dont think we should be continuing with using Sugar Claw Clan, like Elysnia said the major people split away and are now doing their own thing, saying the Clan left SJ (reason doesnt really matter). We could just start another clan or have it that the remaining Khajiit in SJ created their own clan.

ElridgeOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 07:22 PM #23

True enough, guess we should just scrap the SCC. With the new factions idea, we should have more then enough for people to do and be apart of

@rainhaOct 18, 2014

Oct 18, 2014 at 08:22 PM #24

I think it would be cool to have a clan if the town wouldn't be ran by said clan. I think S'ren-ja being so close to Ciirondil makes it so we can have a less khajiiti type structure just fine and it could be interesting lorewise.

But I wanna hear the members input, though

fireguy-746Oct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 12:34 AM #25

Yes! senates! congress! TAXES!!!

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 01:12 AM #26

taxes?

fireguy-746Oct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 06:14 AM #27

ahhh its a joke

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 06:27 AM #28

ikr I was just playing along

fireguy-746Oct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 07:06 AM #29

but hey a council sounds cool will the meetings be open?

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM #30

I don't see why not, but I think that would depend on who iş part of said council ic

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM #31

I was thinking, if we could have the wws cover be the farmer community....
Don't know for the vamps though. I would have said them, but they get unconfortable in the sun...
The vampires could run the clinic/hospital And be deemed as healers lol. They could give their blood to the patients And get theirs in return lololol

Just ideas, please give me your thoughts

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 01:08 PM #32

The vamps could be the church!

Emilia of CamlornOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 02:22 PM #33

Well, I am leaning towards vamps being a bit more sophisticated that that, more like... scholars, alchemists, chroniclers... But then again, I am judging from Hawke's perspective :)

MailnaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 04:20 PM #34

Woah, wait... people broke off? I was wondering where all the original characters had gone off to...
I like the idea of having a masked supernatural council, at least for now.

heroofnoneOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 05:49 PM #35

Nothing stopping vampires from joining the mages, but I think the point was having them be members of something that seemed mundane and not very important, yet everyone answers to them.

@rainhaOct 19, 2014

Oct 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM #36

Vamps and Wolfs can have the job they want, basically, but their leaders should take the leadership of one of the less popular factions in the town as to justify to outsiders their parts on the council.
To be a more iluminati type of thing.

ElridgeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 01:35 AM #37

I would imagine leading the miners would be good for a vampire, nice dark caves, could easily hide spots in the cave for meetings and things of the like

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@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 01:58 AM #38

Mines are cool!

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 02:07 AM #39

They would supervise the hard labor workers then? gata was Stalking the caves around looking for a place to set her alchemy kit...

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 02:08 AM #40

Maybe i can see if some of them have less enemies or something

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 02:10 AM #41

They don't actually need to do hard Work, And vampires are supposed to be super strong And fast

ElridgeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 02:35 AM #42

haha maybe they just enthralled people to do the hard work for them? xD

heroofnoneOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 01:37 PM #43

Do we want to form something on the classified or character sheet forums? It seems like we needid at least a military commander a new town leader (not sure we'd call them clan mother since technically she left the town and exists elsewhere), a leader for the mages, and merchants? We have one for the guard already, and the supernatural council should be secondary to getting the town in "working" order

ElridgeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 03:33 PM #44

True Herfi, do we have characters for a story tonight?, are we ok with proceeding through the new story? Let me know if we need any costumes made

ElsyOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 04:30 PM #45

Let me know if anyone needs help with anything!

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 04:58 PM #46

There iş a clan mother in everycity, it iş not because one left that we couldnt get another. Makes no sense since we are not even the same guild as them.
I don't know what story we could do tonight :(

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:04 PM #47

Fishing trip?

ElridgeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:20 PM #48

If we get into specifics we should take the conversation away from the entire guild, they don't get spoilers :P

Mo'jahi Ice-EyeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:23 PM #49

Storyline Discussion: Dont read if you dont want storyline spoilers

I still have Dro'Jhala who in the story so far is the clanmother of S'ren-ja. If we want we can change it at any time but until then Dro'Jhala could be the one to help maybe create the council and then be the administrative 'leader' of it. Ultimately the Roleplay Leader would be the one to create stories with the help of the rp officers, but until we have that position filled again we need to keep the roleplay going.

An event we should have sometime soon (doesnt have to be today) is one that ends the old storyline and starts the new. What I mean with that is the citizens of SJ are called forth and an announcement is made by _____ (Could be Dro'Jhala if we wanted to, or another important person) that the Sugar Claw Clan has left SJ (we dont need to name a reason) (Dro'Jhala would say she knew it all along, She was always worried about the situation and that they would only be a temporary thing in SJ.. but now I went off topic so back to that). Then _____ could call upon the people of SJ to create a council to rule the town and that council be made up of the leader of the factions present (since most of them do not exist already we could say that each faction should decide upon a leader and figure things out or something since we would need reliable ppl to fill the IC roles). Thats pretty much the whole event, we could have the factions present and recruiting at the end if we wanted too to get ppl to join them.

I feel we need some event along the lines of what I said above because this would clear up the confusion with the leaving of SCC and then officially make it canon on our side of things while introducing the new concept we have been working on sort of behind the scenes.

This is all just a suggestion and do with it what you will. :) - Ice

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@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:31 PM #50

I like Ice Eye suggestion, just think we should move it to the backstage as it is starting to get spoilery <3 (just made up the word)

Mo'jahi Ice-EyeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:35 PM #51

Do you want me too move it?

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:36 PM #52

I think it's ok for it to be here, just answer what I wrote in the other post in the backstage, sorry.
I just thought maybe spoilers spoilers?
or maybe you could put them in spoiler boxes?
Idc it can be here, just let's further discuss it on the backstage sorry sorry sorry

Mo'jahi Ice-EyeOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:46 PM #53

Edited, now is spoiler boxes.

@rainhaOct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 05:53 PM #54

Thank you, cold one

fireguy-746Oct 20, 2014

Oct 20, 2014 at 06:40 PM #55

ill be leaving campus around 9pm CST so 10pm EST I will be an hour late so gonna need someone to inform me of the guard situation so I know whats up

ElsyOct 28, 2014

Oct 28, 2014 at 07:52 AM #56

Should we delete or move this thread now that it's a bit out of date?
Just wondering! c: